murdoch, at what point did you find out the criminality was endemic in the news of the world? >> endemic is a very wide-ranging word, and i had to be extremely careful across the justice taking place now, and that has been disclosed i became aware of it and -- this terrible thing happened on your watch. why not? >> because i feel that people like trusted let me down, and i think they behaved disgracefully i think that frankly i am the best person to clear this up. >> the prime minister returns to the comments from south africa with the story continuing to cause interruptions. >> i have said it very clearly if it turns out the hacking of the news of the world, she will only have lied to me, but he would have lied to the police come to the select committee, to the complete commission and perjured himself in a court of law. with 20/20 hindsight and all of that has followed, i would not have offered him the job. and i expect that he wouldn't have taken it. but you don't make decisions in hindsight. uniques than in the present. you live and learn. and believe you me, i have learned